Looking Back At Raiding
It's been a while since the front page got an update; not like anybody
reads these things anyway. Besides, we are a disbanded guild, what updates
could we possibly offer? WoW guilds that disband often simply disappear into
the void; whatever community they may have thrived on when they played WoW
quickly disappears as the members go their seperate ways. That has happened
to us to a certain extent, but when you have a group of people who spent 40+
hours a week together attempting to have fun for well over 2 years, it only
takes a little bit of effort to keep the community together. Thankfully many
of our members still frequent our forums and some still play games
I was thinking about how much of our time went into playing WoW and I
wondered how everyone else felt about the time we spent playing together. I
thought it would be interesting if I asked everyone a handful of questions
about their time in Pacifist and posted the responses on the home page.
Partly as a way to reminice about the fun times we had, and partly as a way
to give others with an inside look at our guild. I mean, we did alright in
our prime before TBC. Always at the top of the server, consistently in the
top 30 or so guilds in the US with occasional top 10 kills, pretty good PVP
reputation, and a decent showing in TBC until everything fell apart. Not your
average scrub guild but admittedly not all that well known of a guild outside
of Kel'Thuzad either.
Almost all of the responses are positive, but a few people regret the
amount of time they sunk into WoW. It seems that not very many people
expected WoW to be such a big part of their lives for a prolonged amount of
time. And it also seems that the general consensus is that WoW is going
downhill, but then again we aren't in a very objective setting.
So, without further ado, here are ex-Pacifist member's responses to the
- When you first started playing WoW, did you have any idea that you'd be
sinking tons of time into end game content? What did you originally
expect from WoW?
- What are some of your most memorable moments while raiding with
- For those of you who quit before we formally disbanded, what were your
reasons for quitting?
- Looking back, do you regret the time you spent raiding, farming, and
otherwise doing all the things you have to do to be successful in a
- What are you doing now game-wise and real life wise? Still raiding
somewhere? Playing something else hardcore? Still playing WoW or other
games casually? Reentered the real world and don't play anything
- For those who still play at least casually, what are your thoughts on
WoW in its current state?
- Any other thoughts or anything to share? Screenshots, pictures, links,
information about what you do in the real world - anything at all.
Before each reply I have given a little bit of background on the person
who is posting. Most of it is just my general opinion of them!
Plumpy aka Spoon - top
Joined as a Mage, rerolled Rogue shortly after.
One of our original raiding members, almost kicked out for pulling the
imps before Lucifron on our 2nd MC raid, quit a couple months before
During about late MC time we were heavily against people rerolling their
character since their mains had really good gear. I knew that Spoon wanted to
make his Rogue alt his main but I couldn't let him do it. He solved this
problem by doing some David Copperfield shit - disappearing for about 3
months and when he came back he simply acted like his Mage never existed; I
think his Mage was dead in a cave in Winterspring for like 6 months. Rejoined
as a Rogue and went on to be one of our best members.
1) I rolled on KT originally to kill Violent Sin
guys, I played a lot of Counterstrike with them. I had never played an MMO
before so I wasn't really sure what to expect, but a bunch of buddies of mine
convinced me to download and try the beta and I thought it was pretty fun.
2) Any time Ntume was on the raid was a good raid.
Also Slims getting banned for calling a dragon a nigger was pretty funny,
though that wasn't really Pacifist stuff or whatever. Twin emps was probably
the most fun/rewarding/exciting/challenging fight I can recall. Pretty much
everything after that was really heavily influenced by videos and strats
posted everywhere you look.
3) Raid leaders that were grumpy (Hocken) or
wouldn't listen and only read bosskillers (Kuraa)
4) I never thought farming and stuff was that bad,
I guess blindly and luckily picking Alchemy/Herbalism before anyone knew how
massive consumables for raids were didn't hurt.
5) Horde Gorefiend represent
6) Stuff has really changed since the expansion.
Just about everyone who cares mildly about the game has full honor gear and a
few pieces of arena gear. Not that thats a bad thing but between arena stuff
and badge stuff and whathaveyou theres not a huge gear curve that there was
pre-TBC. Arena is pretty fun, besides the bitch of a reroll->gear up
portion (unless you are in an all robot guild).
Nexous - top
Was the original leader of Pacifist and probably the main person behind
getting the guild created. Nexous and I led the guild for the most part and
we rarely agreed with each other. I was too nice, he was too mean; together,
it worked out well.
Probably the most useful raider since he could write a script for
anything. The vast majority of our pre-Naxx kills were aided by mods written
1) I bought the game because seriously, a
Blizzard MMO, how could that be bad. I didn't know I'd be raiding, didn't
even know it existed when I bought the game.
2) BWL gate bypassing, hearing Anniebonz or
whatever say "45% we got this next try" about Huhuran, C'Thun, Four Horsemen,
"lets just do this one run on Sapphiron, no potions or anything"
4) I never farmed, raiding was fun up until I
quit, no regrets.
5) Casual (if you can call it that)
6) Going downhill.
Pastortroy - top
We stole PT from like High Caliber around AQ40 time and what a good
decision that was. One of our best Priests and always in a good mood.
When I met him in Vegas I had no idea he was going to be there and I was
really excited since he is a fellow Dwarf Priest buddy. We played blackjack
and lost money.
1) I bought and installed WoW less than 2 weeks
after swearing up and down that I would NEVER play an MMO after watching my
fatass, dorito-munching-at-6:30am-to-kill-a-dragon-in-EQ friend told me that
I should, and his advice is always bad. Then he convinced my roommate to try
it, and he stopped playing UT with me so I bought it. I had no idea I'd spend
this kind of time on it.
2) I joined Pacifist at the end of AQ40 raiding.
40-flasking and 3 druiding Viscidus was really pretty fun, a lot of Naxx was
pretty fun, too. 8% gruul wipe to ogre respawns and killing Kael'thas were
fun if you want to include TBC stuff.
3) I didn't actually quit but I pretty much
stopped raiding because I moved to the west coast and after a while my real
job got tired of me leaving early to raid.
4) No, I met a lot of cool people (rip pacicon)
and saved a lot of money that I could have spent on dates with girls I'd
never call back anyway.
5) I raid with Insomnia on Tichondrius and do
some decently competitive arena, too. I still think WoW is fun, but in a very
different way than it used to be.
Mikey aka Mikec - top
Mikey was like the original Pacifist member. I'm pretty sure he was the
first person we recruited who wasn't affiliated with Goon Squad in some way.
Raided extremely consistently from start to finish and was one of the few
people we let switch mains pre-TBC. We didn't "let" him as much as it was him
telling us he was a Warrior now and he knew that we couldn't live without
him. Plus he had purposefully not spent any DKP what so ever throughout like
most of MC/BWL and his Paladin had relatively bad gear.
Notorious for having tons of DKP because he never missed a raid. If Mikey
wanted something, it was his.
1) It fun was and unlike any game I had ever
played. I always played games pretty hardcore so playing WoW didn't influence
2) First night that BWL came out.
3) I hated the guild leaders. My impression of
vanstrider and kuraa: ALRIGHT GUYS NEW MOB/BOSS READ GUIDES AND WATCH VIDEOS
WE ARE TOO FUCKING STUPID TO FIGURE IT OUT CHING CHINK CHONG.
4) No, it was fun. Otherwise why do it? When I
made my warrior I raped everything and everybody in sight it was pretty fun
cruising around on a ram charging people.
5) Get my work on cause I need that paper.
6) BC was awful when it first came out. They
fixed a lot of it, but flying mounts killed world pvp. It's not as good. It's
still the best and there is nothing better atm. When diablo 3 and starcraft 2
come out there will be no reason to play any other game again.
7) Guild would still be successful if guild
leaders and officers were bigger jerks. Putting up with noobs and girls
because you want to be internet nice guy and somehow think an e-girlfriend is
cool is why the guild was shitty. It was carried on the back by a few select
good players. But w/e it's not that big of a deal it's not like it ruined
Wuzzle - top
Another member from the beginning. Did a TBC reroll as a Warrior (and
would have done it earlier if we let him) but quit pretty soon into TBC if I
recall correctly. Always a good raider but he is a little angry. Pretty funny
Spent 2 years listening to us on Vent without saying a single goddamn word
and he had a mic. Finally started talking to us just like a couple months
World of Warcraft was the first MMO I had ever
played. I had been a huge fan of all Blizzard games from Diablo and Starcraft
onwards and knew just from looking at the screenshots that the game was going
to be absolutely amazing, and honestly it was. Sure it has lost it’s
“WoWness” within the past four years but for some reason I keep
coming back to it. I remember day one of beta, it was probably the most
amazing time I’ve ever had playing a video game. Myself and two friends
all created humans and ventured off into the world of Azeroth, flying a
gryphon for the first time, swimming to STV at level ten with 100 other
people, the game was so fresh and pure – everything was new and the
world was there for us to conquer. I had no idea that I’d be playing
end game so much, honestly I had no idea what “end game” was.
Pacifist was the first guild I joined that wasn’t my own, and I still
remember talking to Redstar in Felwood about joining. It often amazes me that
these little insignificant moments pop back into my head from time to time.
Hell, in Social class I called the Pacific Ocean the Pacifist Ocean; and even
now whenever I type it I often type Pacifist instead.
There are so many moments that I’ll never
forget while raiding with Pacifist. Our first attempts at Onyxia and finally
the kill was an amazing feeling, and you could really tell that people were
truly excited about being able to kill the first 40 man raid boss – it
was our initiation into 40 mans, and a memorable one to say the least.
Running UBRS with full raid groups before they
put a cap on the number of people, and farming that instance non-stop for DKP
was also very enjoyable.
Our first Ragnaros kill was totally rad. Having
to pull together and everyone get Fire Resist really brought the guild
together and showed who was willing to put the effort into continuing our
Day 1 of BWL, and our one hour long Razorgore
fight due to extreme amounts of lag in which everyone stuck to it... one boss
for a WHOLE HOUR of 20 second lag – it really shows who the true champs
http://pacifistguild.org/media/upload/Blackwing Lair Lag (Small).avi
Getting kicked out of the instance by a GM for
bypassing their buggy content and using deviate fish to get through the
locked door, another fine moment.
Overall, everything PRE-TBC was memorable
compared to after it was release. The instances pre BC are, in my opinion,
unrivalled today. I really feel flying mounts ruined a lot of interacting the
horde and alliance had with each other. It’s very rare you’ll see
another person flying around and even if you do... who stops to wave or say
hello anymore? World PVP is gone because of flying mounts, and I see no
reason why they couldn’t add 280% riding mounts instead. After the
joining of horde and alliance into one city it almost felt as though the
servers “togetherness” got torn apart even though we were all of
the sudden right next to each other. There was no common meeting place such
as Blackrock Mountain, which undeniably was the best zone IN THE GAME.
Overall I’ll keep playing WoW as there just
isn’t anything better on the market, but there’s no way I’d
spend the time I did pre BC on the content that is available now.
Sitizen - top
Another long time member, but he quit so early - around the start of Naxx.
We didn't have any NE Priests for like a year after him.
I was sad when Sitizen quit because he was a really good player to have
around. Always stayed in touch through DotA and the forums and just recently
started playing again on Gorefiend.
Probably in the top 5% of smartest and most mature people in the guild.
The moments of WoW raiding I enjoyed the most
1) The week leading up to our Rag kill.
2) The night we got through the gate in BWL and
had a show down with a GM.
3) The raids leading up to and including our
first Twin Emps kill.
By the time we had AQ40 on farm status I was
pretty disillusioned with raiding. At the time I was really sick of playing a
priest and ready to try something else. Video Card overheating brought my WoW
raiding career to an end. I got my computer up and running again after a few
weeks and no longer had any interest in the game. The last raid I clearly
remember was the first Patchwerk kill.
Ultema - top
Joined pretty early - I think originally found through Jalia's AB PVP team
when AB came out. Raided until the end off and on a little bit.
Sold his character and totally regretted it. Ended up buying like 3 NE
Hunters each with slightly better gear than the last but eventually turned
into a Mage.
Ultema was just one of those guys who is better than you and there's
nothing you can do about it. A professional Hunter who rarely said anything
that wasn't correct.
1) I played everquest for almost two years so I
expected a time sink, although I never thought the majority of it would be to
human error as it is now. Although I did expect to me more of a "pulling
class" ie. everquest monks
2) Memorable moments include, anything involving
sneakifist tactics, raping random ass people in blues while waiting for a
raid spot, jalia / trailmix GM grind of death, fearing through the gate in
bwl, and killing that "vending machine of a boss" chromag P.S. Katithra Deep
Breaths on vent. EDIT: Getting raped by the meteor on the way to twin emps 2
feet in front of the raid,
3) Horrible computer problems, bored with hunter,
rerolled mage, all while pacifist deteriorated from the guild that wrote
strats to the guild that read them and wiped alot. I think for alot of us
pacifist died when tbc came out. By the time there was actually a raiding
spot for me Pacifist was long gone. We are excellent at finding a strat and
tailoring encounters to fit our raid make-up. We lost that ability some time
in Naxx, and we became average who carried people to free purpz.
4) Absolutely not, at least for me I felt I was
part of something more exceptional than the average raid guild, that mixed
with the friendships and our ability to play well together I'd say it was
worth it. (Maybe I would have stopped at Naxx =/ )
5) I am currently raiding full time in Vulgar on
Dragonmaw. I have some of the best gear possible in the game, but I swear to
god if I could find something better to do I would do it in a heart beat.
Unfortunately the time sink has gone from learning and creating new
strategies to simply trying to recreate the accomplishments of superior
guilds/players. In my current guild 15 people are literally carrying the rest
two boss kills and free epics, and the 10 people being carried are two
retarded to realize that if you're playing this game and raiding for gear you
are wasting a very very large amount of time.
6) I think WoW has become too casual in every
aspect including the mentality of its "hardcore" raiders. I'd rather sit the
bench in a guild like old school pacifist w/ nexous telling people to shut
the fuck up than raid full time with scrubs loot whores and people who are
too stupid to figure out boss encounters for themselves.
fuckin mikec, still the man.
Sophitia - top
Another person we stole from High Caliber (I think). Raided very
consistently all the way to the end and was our defaulted-loot MT for a
significant amount of TBC.
Can't say enough good things about Soph. MTs can make a guild and he was
always very consistently a good player. Not to mention a completely relaxed
guy with a good attitude.
So before he joined Pacifist he came seemingly out of nowhere to be HC's
main tank. This was right around the time the Emerald Dragons (Taerar, etc)
were introduced and AQ40 hadn't come out yet. There was a time when he had
much better gear than our MT and this pissed me off so I decided we simply
had to steal him. I did a ton of outdoor bosses with him and plotted a way to
steal him but coudn't see a way to do it; HC treated him alright (they got
him a Thunderfury) and I thought he'd stay there. Then one day out of nowhere
he magically joined us.
1) I've been a Blizzard fanatic since Warcraft 2
hit the shelves. I was extremely pleased with the flawlessness and the
beautiful graphics of their games. War3 really got me into the lore of
warcraft with their epic cinematics and the captivating single player
campaign. When I got into Diablo 2, I came down with a sickness called power
hunger. Mowing down 7000 cows with huge ass frozen orbs was extremely
addictive. The extreme variety and versatility of item bonuses and the rarity
and outrageously epic quality of uniques and item sets made the game that
much more addictive. There were some seriously fatal flaws to the game
though; You couldn't have more than 8 people in one game, it was still just a
limited RPG dispite the multiplayer aspect, and pvp was like having a
firefight with M134 Miniguns in a small half-acre yard.
When I heard about WoW, I was thrilled with the
idea of a level-grinding adventure done the right way and with stunning
graphics to boot. I was quick to jump into the open beta and leveled up
despite the intense lag --often times waiting 5 minutes for an npc to
I didn't even know you could form a raid until
like level 40. The reason to play was to make just a single powerful
character that could take on the world. I didn't care about raiding to begin
with, but once I got into it, I couldn't get enough.
2) The first raid I went on with Pacifist was a
BWL raid. It was alot different from my old guild's routine. It seemed to be
so perfectly synchronized like an orchestra. It was beautiful. Killing C'thun
the first time was an amazing performance that many guilds could not pull off
THE most epic moment of WoW was Clouser's
Azuregos grief. Here we are in this remote craphole at 4 a.m... Azuregos was
very messily nuked down to .001% by random pugs when, out of nowhere, he
sprints off into the distance and resets. I was lucky enough to be apart of
the many victims teleported off the side of a 300 ft cliff, with a 10 minute
run back to shore. Meanwhile, HC steals the kill.
3) Bad Players/Annoying players were not
gkicked/replaced in raids for better players. Making endless amounts of
attempts with an encounter with mass consumables without making any real
strategic improvements whatsoever. There was absolutely no reason to play the
game outside of raiding. Once that fell through, there was nothing left.
World PVP was non existent, and arena wasn't the slightest bit fun for a prot
warrior with subpar damage gear.
4) I don't regret any of it. I did exactly what I
set out to do before the game even came out and alot more.
5) Not playing WoW. I might come back for the
second expansion for more lore and the world pvp zones sound closer to what
pvp always should have been.
I've been taking some college classes and I've
developed an interest in astronomy in particular and I recently paid for
another month of EVE. It's a pretty interesting game to be honest. It's
definately not as fast-paced and life-threateningly addictive as WoW, but
it's satisfyingly idiot-proof and has stunningly beautiful graphics.
6) Why oh god do they keep adding shit that makes
this game look more and more like a god damn cartoon show? Giant hummer sized
bear mounts, elven loli-pop land, actual carnival elephants, and ambiguously
gay cities that look like the inside of a jewelry box. When this game came
out, we had iron swords and wooden shields with chain armor and savage 9th
century town settings. Now the game somehow evolved into a science fiction
space rpg where we wield lightsabers and wear slutty vampire costumes.
They should have never changed Alterac Valley
from it's original form. That was the best way to play PvP in WoW. Epic
battles that lasted hours were alot of fun. It's like when you're having sex,
you can't just blow it all in 5 minutes, it's alot more fun to drag it out
(insert troll comment about virgins here). This is why Arena is complete
failure. Fast games in a very small space is counter-intuitive to the point
of having pvp in an mmo in the first place
Pillin - top
An original member but off and on a little bit and quit sometime in Naxx I
We always had a problem retaining Druids but Pillin was always a good one.
Remained very active in our little community even when he rerolled Horde on
KT. One of our token Asians and a really funny guy. Occasionally annoying
because he likes to debate a little and he's good at it.
One of our more normal-people players who would put real life before WoW.
Probably a good decision!
1) When I first heard about WoW, I was mostly
ambivalent. Even though RTS skills are obviously in my genes, I was/am much
more a fan of FPS games (counterstrike). So when I was introduced to the game
in the betas, I was scared of the whole MMORPG concept even though I liked
Blizzard games. I knew MMOs could suck up a lot of time, but I guess I never
knew to what extent. But one thing I did know was that I'm fairly competitive
and I wouldn't settle for some scrub guild.
2) I think what I enjoyed the most was seeing the
early stages of the guild as it grew into a raiding machine. Countless runs
through Scholomance, Stratholme, and UBRS really sort of set the foundation
of things to come. I can remember the popularity of Pacifist even before we
started MC. Members would receive numerous tells about guild recruitment, of
which, we all directed towards Nexous cause he wouldn't hesitate to say no. I
remember "trying out" Rithriaem in Scholomance, having him tank the skeletal
mobs that used to hit so hard (and the subsequent "man" build that is 51
prot). I remember having one tank for most of the time - Basileus and Jalia
with one coming back and the other going on break. I remember Mikey calling
everyone pussies then jumping off the bridge in UBRS. Team couch. Ninja
Pirate Monkeys - Rend runs for Genji's felstriker. I remember the first 5-man
Scholo, pre nerf. All these sorts of things are some of my fondest memories
because it changed the game from something that I did to kill time to
something where I got to hang out with my e-friends and learned how to "do it
big" before the term was even coined.
The start of Onyxia was one of the most exciting
moments - it was one of the pinnacles of raiding as it was the start of 40
mans, and it was a complete paradigm shift in thinking. We laugh at Onyxia
now, but when you are raiding every night and even GM's are watching and
cheering you on, it's something special. From there it was MC. The race to
bosses against fortis, Sneakifist, fire protection pots, Eileen our beloved
chinese farmer in MC, the DND message chain of 6-7 people that told wannabe
recruits to message someone else (leading to an infinite loop), 40 man raids
through BRD, bong hits over ventrilo (smoky, bubbly helicopters), leet EJ /
conquest strats, etc. First time we spawned Ragnaros... Hocken reading what
the Majordomo had to say over vent, a rather epic moment. Kicking caitlin the
loot whore - "I don't want to go just to wipe." Killing the "Big elementa
hed" , nerd explosions in vent, moutain, etc.
BWL, as people mentioned, first night, epic
stuff. Rogues excited for being useful aside from DPS in broodlord's room,
etc. It was the next step of raiding, but unfortunately, my last with
p.s. test realm, AQ40, ballkoklol | Epic RP
journey courtesy of Rith/Redstar | 2v2 tournament in DM arena | Being able to
say "yeah, I'm mentioned in the dungeon companion guide" | DOTA sessions
3) Mostly school reasons. It's hard to do
homework when there are purpz to win or noobs to slay.
4) I never regretted anything in the moment.
Looking back, I'm sure I could have played a little less and still
accomplished the same things in the game, but it's not something that bothers
me. I think the community is what made the game as enjoyable as it is, and I
never regretted any of the epic moments.
5) Game wise - still playing wow and trying to do
well in arenas, working out kinks in my gameplay to achieve higher and higher
ratings. Essentially, PvP is what interested me most at heart, and that is
pretty much the only enjoyable thing left in the game for me.
Real life - Still working towards a BS in
Computer Science, and just trying to manage my time a little better, though
it's hard when there are so many things I'd like to do, but have little time
6) We all knew as time went on, WoW was a vastly
different game every couple of patches. Few things or classes have stayed
mostly unchanged. I think I've noticed that the game seems to be more fast
paced. Now it's about min/maxing, huge crits, and doing things either first
or faster or more leet, etc. PvP, what I care about, has always had a tenuous
balance, and it's interesting to find out that every class and no class is
simultaneously OP and underpowered. Blizzard has a tough job of fixing real
problems with viable solutions - when addressing an issue, the "fix" often
needs to be tweaked in subsequent patches. I guess it's good that they try,
but often times annoying in implementation.
Overall, still enjoyable for me in regards to the
PvP aspects of the game.
Some of these things are what made the game go
from pretty cool, to epic. In the end, it's the people that made the
One of the coolest things about being in Paci was
the funny dichotomy between the casuals that didn't know they were casuals,
the wannabe hard core, and the actual hard core. As WoW grew in popularity,
I'd overhear more and more conversations in RL about people getting their
first 60 while we had been farming MC for months, and I couldn't help
thinking, "heh, noobs"
freestyle rap battle, hyphy and boy genius.... KT
had good times
Vanstrider - top
Joined during TBC when we were having trouble. Eventually was gleadered by
myself and led the guild into the ground - I mean to the end!
He was the second leader of Banana Syndicate that I stole. There was some
time during AQ40 when we needed some sort of favor from BS and he wouldn't
accomidate us so I hated him. But even though he had a rep as sort of an
asshole I thought this was unfounded and happily recruited him when we needed
It was obvious from day 1 that he was officer material so he quickly
became an officer. As Kuraa began to get burnt out on running the show,
Vanstrider stepped in and did it. By this point I was almost quit so I
leadered him since he was running things. It wasn't his fault things fell
1) I didn't purchase WoW on launch but my
roommate did and we spent all kinds of time on his Dwarf Hunter. At first I
was hesistant about the game because I heard about Everquest and its
ridiclous time -> reward factor involved. But WoW looked different, it had
LORE I knew about from Warcraft games so I thought I would give it a shot. I
bought the game and installed it shortly after launch.
I had no idea what to expect from WoW, I know it
was an online game based around RPG mechanics. Sounded good to me, so I
started leveling my paladin and from there began to love the game. What made
the game so attractive was the fact I leveled with a large group of
individuals from Goon Squad. Having recently rerolled and having no one to
level with, I look back and see that leveling with a large group of people at
the same time is essential to me having fun with this game.
After Goon Squad has similar moment that Hocken
explained in his post that he wanted to raid all the talent from Goon Squad
(psst i wasn't 60 yet, you missed me nerd). Goon Squad splintered off and
became Banana Syndicate where we gave Pacifist a run for their money for the
first Rag kill. The debacle that was BWL made me quit for the first time
after repeated nights of raiding just ended up being gigantic lag fests with
retarded guilds trying to raid Razorgore and get a cheap kill through lag.
I came back to BS just in time for them to kill
Nefarion. I was egged on by people to re-take a leadership position and lead
AQ40. I did, we got respectable kills up until Twin Emps which took quite a
bit of time to learn but we got them down after about three weeks of trying.
At this time it became incredibly evident that if you didn't have 40 people
all on the same page, you would suffer through an incredible amount of wipes
and time wasted, some fights we would bring 14 healers with myself doing
25-30% of the entire healing! We knew this wouldn't bode well for C'thun and
We spent a ridiclous amount of time on C'thun and
could not kill him. Like many other guilds including Pacifist, Banana
Syndicate had about 25-30 people who carried the guild while 10-15 others
fucked us over with their lack of skill and basic common sense. We had a sub
20% wipe on C'thun that broke the guild's back and we never really tried
again, we went on to Ouro which we dominated for some reason and got plenty
of kills out of him before Naxx came out.
Naxx was coming going smoothly, we had a fair
share of difficulties on the end of Spider Wing and Instructor Razuivous (we
had retarded priests in our guild) which ended up in our Main Tank, myself
and others logging on to priest accounts to play them because they had no
concept of mind control/tanking. We worked on Patchwerk for a week straight,
at the time I was exclusively running the guild bank and supplying EVERYTHING
for raids, Mana potions, flasks, elixirs, etc. Very few of the 40 people
would bring their own stuff and the guild bank had to supply it. Well after a
week of tweaking our strategy and what not, one night on our first attempt we
just killed him with only our tanks flasked from the start. About half way
through I told everyone to pop whatever they had, we got a kill in about 7
minutes 10 seconds. It was a huge morale boost for the guild.
We got to Gluth which we used an amazing priest
kiting strategy on all the mobs. Since it was the only way we learned the
fight and because only one of our priests wasn't retarded (SIDEKICK WAS
AWESOME), if he didn't show up we would wipe endlessly on this boss. But when
he was there, it was pretty much a one shot everytime.
We got to Thaddius and after discussing with the
"skilled" members and leadership of the guild, we came to the conclusion that
with Christmas approaching and the sheer individual play needed for Thaddius
we would not beat this boss and trying to push through him during the
Christmas holidays was a dumb idea so many of us opted to go to Pacifist
where they had a roster struggle of their own or go back to Goon Squad or
I disbanded Banana Syndicate, gave some gold to
people who deserved it and would continue playing (in retrospect maybe I
should've given more but whatever I think I earned it).
2) I missed out on the special Naxx moments and I
am not old school like the rest of the guild. But killing Sapph and Kel
Thuzad for the first time was amazing. For me though, killing Kael'Thas was
really a cool moment from what I think is still one of the best fights in the
game (Confession - after yelling at everyone during the fight not to fucking
die, I ended up dying sometime in Phase 4-5, boy I was glad we killed him
during that attempt). Doing Karazhan while everyone else on the server was
still leveling was equally awesome. I loved a lot of the boss fights in TBC,
not gonna lie. Leotheras the Nerd was a great fight, so was Vashj and the
Lurker Below. I actually like High Astromancer Solarian and A'lar but they
got nerfed into the ground before we spent too much time with them. Gurgtogg
Bloodboil was one of my favorite fights as a healer but BT overall was a
disappointment for fights.
Leveling and doing Heroics with Spoon, Mikec,
Sophitia, Kuraa, Dyno and others was a lot of fun. Probably the most fun I
had in the game. If anybody who I leveled with in TBC want to do the same
thing in WolTK I would come back and do it.
3) Let me just say that like many other guilds
who have disbanded, we had the exact same problems. Lack of quality recruits,
too many people quitting and jumping ship and the game's lack of 25 man
content getting updated fast enough to keep people interested. It still was
the right thing to do, can you imagine doing Black Temple for another 4
months straight with no new content? That alone would've probably killed
Pacifist was on life support after the cock block
that was Archimonde, much like Banana Syndicate, we got to a fight where 25
individuals weren't on the same page and skill level that needed to be to
beat the fight. It was painfully obivious no matter who we brought to the
fight to replace bad individuals, they couldn't figure out what the fuck to
do with flames. We had a one shot of him right after a hotfix but it was a
fluke because we couldn't repeat it.
Reliquary of souls really broke my spirit because
of all the sub 5% wipes, it wasn't a hard fight at all, but wiping because
someone died on Phase 1 everytime really made a lot of people bitter.
4) Why farm when you can just steal? (KIDDING).
Sometimes finding the right balance of raiding and other things was key. For
me personally it took a toll since I was leading raids and the guild at a
time when other quality leadership for raids was practically non-existent. So
I had a much bigger burden of responsbility than others.
5) I have rerolled to Horde Kel Thuzad and
started leveling a Blood Elf Paladin. I am now in Exodus our former main
rivial. I am not raiding and have no plans to raid at this moment. I also
have a Druid on Gorefiend that I have stopped leveling because I found him to
be boring zzzz. I don't have the time to level hardcore and speed leveling is
really difficult by yourself so I just play casually.
I work as an event planner (concerts, hall of
fame ceremonies, award shows) so I work a lot of evenings for various events
so the real world is eating up most of my time. I also have a lot of other
interests (SPORTS, big surprise to everyone in the guild who probably hated
me talking about sports all the time) and currently don't want to spend all
night playing a video game when I got other shit to do.
6) WoW is dissappointing now compared to what it
was Pre-TBC at least. TBC did a lot of things right, I loved the requirements
to get into instances (especially for 25 people, for 40 some of these
requirements would've been too difficult to coordinate), heroic mode was
awesome although I found normal mode an incredible waste for the highly
skilled players. What the fuck is the point of running normal mode for most
level 70 based dungeons (shadow labyrnth, shattered halls, etc.) when you can
just dominate them as is with a decent group comp with your guild members.
PvP I still haven't been a big fan of since day
one and is the number one reason for terrible players getting gear they
shouldn't deserve. You could lose every game you have ever played but still
end up with a purple piece of gear? Just brutal.
Now looking to the future with Wrath of the Lich
King, every 25 man dungeon including a 10 man version so that so called
"casuals" don't miss out on content makes sense from a business prespective.
But really, how many of these casuals really gives a shit about the lore and
the content associated with X dungeon or Y boss. Blizzard stated that the
quality and quantity of items will make 25 man dungeons worth doing but I
fail to see that happening. Just look at the differences between the best PvP
gear and some pieces of PvE gear or Black Temple vs Zul'Aman. Knowing what
you know now, would you continue to raid 25 man content for gear alone? No
you would just go to the 10 man content to save time and energy. The only
reason to do 25 man content will be for the challenge of a boss fight but I
fail to see how much different a boss with 25 will be versus a boss with 10
WoW will be fine and the hardcore niche will
always exist, but the point, the allure, the main reason to be a huge fucking
nerd and not go out at night, means incredibly less now then it ever did.
Because some 30 something year old father of two has an epic from pvp that is
only 3 dps less then what you have from some boss in the Sunwell. Big.
Fucking. Deal. It was cool when you could stand in Ironforge and show off
Tier 3 when you knew no one else on the server other than your competition
and friends had this gear.
7) I deleted everything to do with WoW in terms
of screenshots. But I had a lot of great memories and was incredibly proud of
leading Pacifist after the great leadership before it went on to other
things. If we could all get back together and level for WotLK I would welcome
that in a second.
Later this month I am running an event that
features a lot of "Miss" City/Country/Region girls, so maybe I will post some
pictures so you got some eye candy to look at instead of my ugly mug.
I might update this some more when I have other
thoughts about WoW's current state but I think that's all I have to say
Clouser - top
Clouser was one of our very few long time raiders that lived on the other
side of the world - Moscow. He joined kind of late but was a complete pro all
the way until the end. All of our Hunters were always really good.
I think in hindsight we should have listened to Clouser more. He was
usually right about things but his message got through the static not as
often as it should have. I would often talk to Clouser to get an idea of what
he was thinking then try to incorperate that into the raid itself.
1) I started playing WoW in beta. Then created a
char on the Laughing Skull server because it sounded cool. I have been
playing a troll mage. I didn’t plan to play hardcore but at level 50 I
joined guild named End Game and found a lot of friends there. There even were
several russians. I started raiding since LBRS where in first couple days we
couldn’t get past fucking blue spiders with 40 man raid lol I have been
raiding with them till a lot of our core raiders quit and guild could not
I hated alts but situation in the guild pissed me
off and I created one on the new pvp server Azshara. Leveled him to 60 and
that NE Hunter became my main. I joined uber hard core guild Letalis. We were
only one raiding guild on the server so we had to farm all AQ shit on our
own. Half of the guild had to take leatherworking to farm Light
After opening gates we were rushing through
content so fast..raiding 7-8 hours a day we killed 4 bosses in first day,
then Huhu in second day. Twin Emps were dead on the same week. This made me
want to play even more. But in mid Naxx we got same problems as Pacifist.
Guild has lost a lot of quality players and could not raid any more.
And I transferred to KT to join Pacifist…
In first day on KT I wiped 40 ppl in Azshara on Azuregos lol.
2) Getting that crossbow of Kel’Thuzad over
Kuraa. Arguments with Fagstrider ( I still love you bud).
3) I was upset because Van did not listen to me.
I have never died on Archimonde (even in new guild, Promethean) and my
advises would help. I felt myself like a stranger in american guild and I
partially can understand you guys.
4) No, I don’t regret at all. Raiding with
End Game, Letalis and Pacifist was fun. I played ~1 year in each guild and
got to know a lot of good ppl.
5) I quit my job where I could play wow. Right
now I am preparing for my wedding which is in 7 days =)
6) I liked the uniqueness my gear had back in the
Naxx days when dozens of ppl in AV were inspecting me and asking “where
did I get that ?” Now its all gone. PvP gear has almost same stats and
design as PvE sets.
7) Thanks for everything. Hope I will visit US
sometime and meet somebody of you. P.s. Sorry for my English, its 11:55 am
here, didn’t have time to check with dictionary..
Hazardous - top
Haz was another "perfect guild member" - the type that showed up to
everything (and with Haz I really mean everything). He joined us very early
and raided consistently until the end. Him and Mikec were probably the most
consistent and long term members we had.
Another guy who is too nice and too mature to be playing WoW, we were
lucky to find him. Also he can bench press a car, has a supermodel
girlfriend, and makes millions of dollars every day just by looking good.
It was funny when Haz and Ezorah and myself went to the TBC launch at
EBGames in downtown Seattle. He was so out of place amongst all the nerds. I
have so much faith in Haz at one point he had keys to my apartment and fed my
cat for a weekend!
2) Rith and Redstar switching accounts and rith
running redstar right into Garr.
Group dances and gnome walks in MC (genji not
dancing cause hes to cool for us)
Learning ragnaros and ntume screaming at raid
tankin nefarian in AQ dps gear, ashkandi, and a
santa hat. (with the help of hella pro healers of course!)
Learning new content with the guild was always
the most pleasurable and exciting experience in wow for me.
4) No regrets. Nearly every raid day was a blast.
Learning new content and hanging out online with yall was a great way to
5) picked up an xbox360 and get to play it real
casually. Its dynamite being able to just pick it up and drop it at a moments
notice. No internet time schedule to meet yaknow?
working 50h a week for fleet of washington state
building police interceptors and other vehicles for motorpool. moving to
chicago in 2 months to start medschool and really excited to contribute
something more to society than cop cars.
7) I miss gaming with most of you!! And ill never
forget all those boring MC runs to Garr yall did just to get one tiny gnome
his thunderfury! GNOME HUG! XOxoXOxoxoxo!
Ezorah - top
LOOKOUT IT'S A GIRL. Ezorah was a long time member who somehow put up with
all of us. It was made worse by the fact that she played a Warlock and we
liked to give the Warlocks a lot of shit.
She did a good job on raids and was very much part of the tight knit
community of Warlocks and the general girls in Pacifist group.
She could also probably outdrink you without even trying.
1) I got bullied into playing wow by a bunch of
real life friends who were ignoring me for it basically. So I figured what
the hell if you cant beat them join them right.
I never imagined I would be allowed to experience
the end game content that I was able to with pacifist. Molten Core back in
those days seemed like just a fleeting dream to a young noob like myself.
Anyway, raiding became addictive and then I was hooked.
2) -Doing gnomeregan with Jallynia and getting the
awesome hat at the end.
-Listening to Roirraw's D&B while raping strat
over and over at 4 in the morning.
3) Work started to take up a lot of my time. I was
saving up to move to Seattle and just didn't have the time to play WoW and be
a reliable raider with Pacifist.
Also, petty fucking drama about stupid imaginary
objects and damage meters. It was retarded that people cared that much about
silly things like that and made it cause to harass perfectly decent people
4) Nah. No regrets. I met a lot of awesome people
through this game and overall it was entertaining for the time it lasted.
5) I work 50 hours a week and manage a restaurant.
My off time is spent singing karaoke, going out with friends, and drinking
Don't really have much time for gaming. I do enjoy
a session of Sims2 every once in awhile, but overall haven't been doing any
sort of regular gaming since wow.
7) I have a couple that have been saved. Don't
know how useful they were be but I think they are ok shots. Sorry if they are
huge or something I don't really care too much to edit them.
Yes I'm a girl, no I'm not "with" every boy I talk
I <3 Jlock
We gots big swords
Sneaking into CoT
I dunno this just looks cool
Forbin and Shrade are fags (its true I know them
both in real life)
Our mighty guild leader in a rare candid
Yeah thats it. I love you pacifist- even you,
Mythological - top
Myth was stolen from the goons after we knew he was a pro from AB.
He made the mistake of letting WoW dominate his life and his raiding
career came to a premature and quick end. Then I think he made the mistake of
selling his account which everyone eventually regrets.
1) I was looking for a time waster. I was a full
time student with no job, had played a couple mmorpgs before, and picked up
WoW. I actually played on Malganis for a bit, quit after the EJ drama, and
rerolled on KT. Somewhere along the line the original mythological gave me
his account and I started to learn and play a Druid. I became pro, raided
with GS, BS, and eventually got into Pacifist sometime in BWL.
2) Raiding Naxx was pretty stressful at times,
but it was really fun. We had a huge instance to beat and tons of fights to
learn and do. Beating shit like Patchwerk and that dancing guy for the first
time was always nice. But the best times were when we were bullshiting in the
battlegrounds or a farm and just talking shit constantly.
3) I actually flunked out of college partly
because of Wow, but also the time requirement was getting too rough. Raids
started late and I had a habit of falling asleep at the wheel. It was just
affecting my real life too much. I tried to get back in it after TBC, but it
really wasn't doing much for me anymore.
4) I kinda regret flunking out but everything
else was awesome. Still nothing compares to the flawless precision of 40
people doing their jobs like pros.
5) I ended up playing Eve pretty heavily once my
life was back in track, now I've pretty much stopped playing MMO's entirely.
I do research for a military contractor on really cool stuff while going to
school full time, so I don't have much free time. I play mtg pretty seriously
as well, and I'm trying to get better at it.
7) I can't really talk about what I work on since
it's classified, but I did go to japan last year. I was lazy and only
uploaded 3 out of the 10 days or so, but the album is here:
Danger - top
Ehrgeiz, I mean Caitsith, I mean Danger is one of those hardcore gamer
types. He was one of the few people I actively recruited on an individual
basis because I had ton a lot of Strat runs with him and I knew he was good
at WoW. He joined very early and was with us for a very long time, and was
one of the few people we let reroll pre-TBC. He also tested the name changing
method of deleting your character, creating an alt with your old name, and
asking for a restore. It worked.
Since he was a pro he often came up with weird ideas that worked well and
even spent his time as our MT. Definitely someone you'd want to have in your
1) I started playing WoW semi-late in the closed
beta. I got extremely addicted and was very pleased at how solo-friendly it
was and bought it as soon as it was released. I planned on spending a lot of
time playing. I didn't expect a lot from WoW because all I had played before
it was Anarchy Online, which has to this day (imo) cooler classes, but
suffered from major lag issues and only semi-solo-friendly zones. I was
curious to see how much fun 5 man groups and later raids would be in WoW. I
started on Kel'Thuzad because the only people I knew who were playing WoW
were starting here(just some acquaintances from local lan parties).
I had an idea of what dungeons were harder than
others and would constantly /who them to see which players/guilds were ahead
of the rest. I'd usually pester these people to group with me. I did the
elite stromgarde quests with a gnome mage in
Because I was able level at a decent speed I
grouped with Nexous and Mark for a few uldaman runs. When I hit 60 I met
Hocken, Jalia, Rincewind, Mikey, and Taliababa and did pacifist dkp runs
through LBRS and UBRS. We also tried stratholme with like 25 people and got
slaughtered. After grouping with pacifist for many instances I talked to
Hocken about joining and got invited.
2) The first Onyxia kill (I had become pro at
ressing people midfight) was the most excited I ever got about killing a boss
in WoW. After that I changed my main to my warrior and didn't really see any
guild first kills until BWL.
BWL was a lot of fun, and probably the closest
point Pacifist ever came to being the farthest guild in PvE content in WoW (I
think we were 3rd in the world to kill post-buff Vael). A bit into BWL was
when I think the declining quality of players in the guild really started to
Killing bosses after they had been killed by a
huge number of guilds really never felt that epic to me, so all the good
memories I have of post-BWL would be the antics of guildmates. Ntume
insulting raid bosses always made me laugh, and the epic fights between
redstar and other guilds in general chat were great.
4) Nope, no regrets, the gear from pve made pvp
awesome, 2 years of horde anger from being completely dominated in pvp and
pve made for some excellent grief.
5) Playing casually and getting pvp epics on KT
and Gorefiend. I have one more year till I get my degree. I've also been
playing every high-rated game that comes out for PC and consoles but find
most of them to only be good single player games. I think the competitive
gaming scene now is hurting more than it has in 8 years for good games that
lots of people can agree are fun.
6) Blizzard's crusade to make WoW an eSport could
not be a bigger joke. PvE design seems to going great, arenas need a lot of
balance work but are still fun. Also it's extremely easy for anyone to get
gear they probably do not even come close to deserving through arena points
7) Argh, I had some pictures of dreadlords
turning everyone within 30 yards into chickens and just infernals walking
around IF from the end of closed beta event, but then I formatted my hard
Redstar - top
Redstar was sometimes a complete pain in the ass but you can't deny the
fact that he was a good player.
He sort of single handedly built our reputation of being a bunch of jerks
when in reality I wanted our reputation to be a pretty nice guild.
Eventually, as the game went on, and in hindsight, I think being a bunch of
jerks is probably more condusive to the general climate of WoW.
1) I had never played an MMO before, just years
and years of CS. Played the open beta and had a pretty fun time. I was amazed
out how big the world was and I only got to explore a few zones in beta but
it just seemed so massive.
2) Having fun times with Rithriaem, Taliababa,
Faedia, Jallinya and Plumpy. The first time we killed Ragnaros was epic,
especially spamming in /1. Later, the MC speed runs would come to be pretty
fun (a little over 2.5 hours I think) The first night of BWL when we
exploited the gate. Another one of the first nights where we had 38 people
still raiding at 4 in the morning. When we killed the hard version of Vael by
being ridiculously pro, like the 2nd or 3rd guild worldwide to kill that one.
All of BWL was pretty fun, AQ was mediocre, until we got to the Twin Emps.
One of the hardest fights in the game and when we beat it we had 40 people
One of funnest things ever was griefing Ministry
one night at the Hinterlands dragon. Me, Hocken, Mikey, Spoon and a few
others just constantly running into the raid group, ganking people then
vanishing. Then I infiltrated Ministrys ventrilo, and was broadcasting it
onto ours. The things we heard them yelling were some of the funniest things
ever. "Forbin, that's motherfuckin Hocken. RAM HIS ASS."
3) Got a fairly good job and got off at the time
we started raiding, but at that point I had already grown tired of the game.
Still doing the same thing, just with a different company.
4) I got to play one of the funnest multiplayer
games ever with some of the most pro people to play it, so no I don't really
regret it. Sometimes farming sucked, but then I would just get someone like
Rith to farm with me and that made it all the more fun.
5) Working and playing hockey, with a little bit
of xbox sprinkled in. GTA IV is the funnest singleplayer game ever and the
multiplayer is pretty fun as well. Don't really play any PC games any more
but I did just build a bad ass computer.
7) I used to have a ton of pictures and stuff but
lost the hard drive, I'll look through the media page for some interesting
Forgot to include this originally, but I really
enjoyed pissing people off, not in this guild, just other people in general.
Just because it's hilarious seeing people type things to you and be serious
about wanting to kick my ass or something, especially when it was the one
troll mage that was in Ministry (shit I forgot his name). I apologize to
anyone in the guild who I pissed off while raiding, especially Hocken,
because I know you wanted to kick me out many times, and Rithriaem sometimes
too. Thanks for putting up with me for all that time
Also 5 manning UBRS to almost Drakk back in the
day with Me, Rithriaem, Hocken, Mikey and Barudin.
Actually thinking back there were a ton of fun
times, I wish the game was still this fun.
Buckey - top
Buckey was such an important member but he'll never admit it because he's
so damn modest. I forget exactly when he joined us but it was pretty early
and heavily influenced by the fact that he was real life friends with some
current members who were real life friends of mine.
I don't even know what to say about Buckey. He's the perfect member:
showed up to absolutely everything, was always beyond prepared often
supplying other people with consumables, always had a good attitude, and
could always be 100% relied on to do his job.
Buckey is simply too nice and too mature to play this game.
1) I played EQ up to and including the first
expansion so I had a fairly good idea how things would end up with warcraft.
My expectations were quickly surpassed when I stepped into the deadmines for
the first time. I was blown away by the level of detail put into such a low
level instance. I remember sitting at the flight master in Redridge with my
cursor above Stormwind and glancing down at my cash flow. After some quick
math I realized that I needed to run back if I wanted to train all my new
abilities. Trying to convince myself that running back while picking up all
the herbs would make me a rich gnome did little to make the trip tolerable.
It was then I knew I was hooked.
2) * LBRS runs to get “shadowcrap”
bracers with Redstar, Guru, and the living weapon himself Khulshalkrum.
* The still much debated “Who pulled the
fucking imps?” Plampy or Naffer.
* Chain sapping Anger while he tried to farm
elemental fires for rag attempts.
* Double pulling core hound packs to show off for
Relg and Anger.
* Warlock recruitment video posted on the
warcraft general forums of Hocken disenchanting 3 pieces of Fel-whatever it
* Hocken’s interview with ntume:
Hocken: “We just need someone to banish
stuff, can you manage that?”
Ntume: “Banish? Yeah I pressed that button
* Everyone making a farmer’s outfit and
walking about Ironforge in a line. I still have my pants made by:
in the bank.
* Varlock screaming: “G fucking G fade, I
hit it and I still died.”
* The release of the pvp system and the
“Hillsbrad shuffle” with Pillin and others.
* Zoning into Alterac Valley, opening the
scoreboard and seeing Nexous 112-0.
* Having Hocken tell me I need to be MA in UBRS
because Nexous sucked at it while trying to heal.
* Getting hate tells from Nexous when I targeted
the wrong shit.
3) After hitting 70 the groups that leveled at or
near the same speed as I did seemed rather cliquey. I spent a fare amount of
time doing nothing (farming) or begging for a group. After seeing how kara
groups (the ubrs of tbc) were formed I bailed and rolled horde.
4) No, hell no. It was worth it to gather herbs
in winterspring just to stop by the yeti cave and check if plampy’s
corpse was still there.
5) School, which I have been neglecting to play
video games. Working on a transfer to UW or EWU once I finish up computer
forensics. I was playing “casually” with some pro pacifist people
but recent events have forced me to stop playing. In hindsight I’m
happy I was forced to stop playing. The only reason I continued to play for
this length of time was the quality of people I was able to play with and how
fun they made the game for me. Thanks fellas.
6) The arena system needs a serious revamp to
move away from this whole eSport theme. The massive gear disparity that was a
common gap for casual players through most of the pre-tbc content is
non-existent with the implementation of badge vendor loot. Dare I say
7) Browsing the forums and this post made me
think back to Barus and Gilliam standing around in Ironforge spitting on
every Pacifist member they ran across.
(Edit) I forgot about being the king of dancing.
I spend my time creating forensic cases to keep
up-to-date on the latest methods for digital evidence gathering. I also buy
hard drives from yard sales and pawn shops to see what I can find with my
forensic tools. Fuck, I’m a nerd.
Lexil - top
Oh Lexil, he got a lot of shit and always took it so well. But in reality
he was one of my favorite officers simply because he was willing to do
anything I told him to do without complaint, and then he could handle my
abuse when he did something wrong. This was a constant problem for officers
in Pacifist, they would do something then be told all the ways they did it
wrong by me.
He was part of a real life crew of Canadians that included one of our
original members Kilranin and his brother Varlock. The 3 of them were a key
part of raiding for a long time, but Varlock quit too soon.
Lexil is a fun guy to hang out with, we had a good time playing Pai-Gow in
Vegas at 6 in the morning. Totally could be friends with him in the real
1) I had played all of blizzards games up to WoW,
I was more of a Final Fantasy fan and picked up FF11 and tried playing for a
while and just hated how leveling worked and decided not to play an MMO
again. I then took a friend out for breakfast one morning a couple weeks
after release and paid for it, he then gave me WoW since he bought it and
everquest 2 because he couldn't decide in the store which to play. The next
day I went to a lan get together with a few friends including Varlock (30 at
the time) and Kilranin. They convinced me to join, so I rolled my beautiful
blue haired hunter Lexil that day and played WoW instead of CS. I thought hey
this is something colourful and fun I can spend sometime playing for a while,
holy crap did that turn into a giant use of my time. Thankfully for the first
2 years I was working back home with most of my friends moved away so I didnt
lose out at all on RL stuff.
2) Anytime listening to Varlock flip out on vent
or in chat about anything. Flying through Strath with BW. Blowing up IF
Auction house with a warlock pet with gheddons debuff. Playing chess
(horribly on my part - though I still swear I just wanted to sacrifice Xivia
who unfortunately was my queen) in BWL while waiting for some peeps. Any of
those really amazing nights where we all just clicked and got shit done.
There was just so many wonderful people that Im terrible at keeping in
contact with but I do love you guys, and the funny thing is quite a few that
I swore didn't like me, I didn't like, or even scared me (Nexous, etc) turned
out to be pretty awesome people. Oh and always somehow managing to pull one
more pack than the last time I pulled more than one pack!
3) I was back in school, dropped pretty casual
when TBC came out, then pretty much quit altogether. Girls, H/W, became a CA
or RA in my res building, and a lot of the people I really enjoyed playing
with had left already. There were some wonderful people that came in but the
only reason I had kept playing so long was for the company of Pacifist in the
MC -> BWL days.
4) I regret very little time I spent prepping and
in game to be ready for everything. I may have regretted a few times, bugging
Hocken one night about changing the GMotD for the next ZG run I was helping
organize when he made me an officer. (thankfully though most people didn't
expect much more of me in that roll other than attendance and points which I
was more than happy to do!)
5) I recently started back into WoW for the
summer. I'm playing a BE Pally with some friends from back home to pass the
time. Zattack on Gorgonnash! I hit 70 2 weeks ago and am pretty epic'ed out
from Kara which is pretty much all they raid, so Im just casual to chat with
them. Come september ill be going into my third year of Pure Math, Ill be
finally able to take a lot more cryptography classes! Finally found a decent
girl too, though she is slightly crazy!
6) Compared to back in the day its ridiculous, if
it wasn't for the friends I have I wouldn't play, my new char with 10 days is
better in almost everyway than my hunter with 250 days, and just how easy it
is to do so much is ridiculous.
7) Due to a hard drive malfunction I lost 99% of
my screens, hopefully Ill dig some up to post soonish.
Vargtimmen - top
Varg is probably the reason I ended up as the leader of Pacifist. He was
too much of a wuss to lead the Onyxia raids by himself so I ended up doing
quite a bit of it and found out that I kind of liked it.
A total pro, completely reliable, but also smart enough to quit very early
on. We tried to talk him into coming back for a long time to no avail, but
he's still around.
Also pretty metrosexual.
1) I had no idea what a raid even was until I was
level 60. My first raid was a pickup Molten Core raid with 40 random people.
I was invited just because I was one of the few level 60s online. I had to
google "Molten Core" to figure out what the hell it was, where it was
located, and what we were doing. Eventually that group would mostly become
Pacifist. I originally started playing in the stress test just because it was
the new Blizzard game.
2) The first Onyxia kill, although I didn't have
a Pacifist tag then. A week of solid raiding culminating in a server-first
40-man raid kill; it was a ton of fun. I don't know if any video game will
ever be able to top that for me. Besides that, probably Nefarian, it was a
late night kill we had worked a lot for. Exploiting Chromaggus for easy loot
was fun too.
Non-raiding but Pacifist: Stratholme with Roirraw
was always great. AV with Jalia or Mikey, healing them while we took on the
entire opposing force mostly by ourselves was a good time too. Any time our
massive gear and/or skill differences came out was enjoyable, I liked feeling
like I was an "elite" player in the little world of Kel'Thuzad.
3) My life had been getting progressively worse
as I played WoW. To fix this I made some major changes in my life: getting a
new job, changing my major, starting to volunteer at a hospital, and a new
girlfriend. I didn't have any time for the game anymore and I was happy.
4) I mostly look back fondly on all the memories
I had playing the game but there are definitely moments I regret, such as
passing up real-life social events to raid.
5) After I quit WoW I swore off games entirely
and only recently started to game again, but only on the consoles. I've
graduated college and have recently accepted an offer for a programmer
position with a large company. I am thinking about building a new PC and
playing Age of Conan.
7) I don't have any screens anymore, but Google
Video and Youtube still have some of my favorite moments.
Thrall Kill (not with Pacifist): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViFq7cvgxkk
Easily my 2 favorite moments in WoW captured on
video. I can't watch them with audio anymore because it's so nerdy I cannot
even stand it, but I can't wipe the smile off my face when watching. Awesome
Andromanche - top
Andro was with us for a very long time but is the type of guy who will put
real life before video games (aka he's smarter than most of us).
Always a very level headed raider, it was nice to have him around on raids
and is still nice to play casually with him. Definitely a person I could see
being friends with in the real world.
1) A short number of months after TFT came out,
Blizzard announced its MMORPG project World of Warcraft. I didn't really know
what an MMORPG was, but I had loved everything Blizzard had given me, so I
waited to hear more. Half a year later, the first screenshots were released,
some small blocky figures with swords swinging at a terribly designed ogre
model. I thought, wow, this looks pretty dumb, but as more and more
information came out over the next couple years, I became much more
interested. Fast forward, and my friend and I apply for the open beta and I
roll a NE druid and he a dwarf pally. The world was massive, I couldn't
believe the size of the continents when I was goggling at how long it took to
run across a city the size of Darnassus. I got to about L20 during the open
beta and very much enjoyed the apocalypse prior to the close of that. Of
course, my friend and I went to the midnight release a couple days after and
rolled the same characters on KT simply because it was one of four or five
I was playing a ridiculous amount. I was in my
senior year of high school, Utah county public education is a joke, the
friends I used to spend tons of time with I no longer did after things got
awkward after dating one of them for awhile, so I found other friends who I
for the most part despised, and my dad had basically given up on parenting so
I was unrestrained on how I chose to use my time. I had always invested spare
time in games for hours since I didn't (and still don't) find TV that
interesting. I, like many others in Pacifist at the game's release, was
logging anywhere between 5 and 7 hours a day, a part time job.
While leveling, I ran into a druid named Redxii
in Duskwood. We ran quests together and after some conversation he invited me
to join his guild, HOOD. Redxii never made it to 60--with how poor dps was on
a druid, especially a feral at the time, he didn't have the patience, so he
rolled a paladin named EvilDeeds. Evildeeds, Zebrin, Saucy and I--Zebrin
reached 60 first, Evildeeds quickly surpassed me at about L54, a couple days
after he and I did a ridiculous 26 hours of logged playtime straight,
breaking for food and bathroom and such, then Saucy and I hit 60 at about the
same time. Top of the guild, we were made officers and began helping the
guild--a new time sink for the game. To our dismay, people were reaching 60
and leaving us for instance running guilds, so we couldn't field a single
instance. Zebrin left us for a new guild of fucking elitists named Pacifist.
The negative sentiment from Goon Squad toward Pacifist spread to almost every
guild on that server, so we were pretty bitter with Zebrin. Things weren't
getting better for HOOD, though, so we needed to make a decision. Evildeeds
decided that the GL didn't care about the guild and neither did the members
and if we wanted to play anymore of the game like he did, then we'd follow
Zebrin's lead. Our options were Force, NPM and begrudgingly Pacifist: they
might be jerks, but it looks like they know their shit.
We really didn't know which to decide, and we had
been discussing it for hours outside of Ironforge while dueling when,
suddenly, a druid runs out of IF with the Pacifist tag and starts challenging
people to duels. Pillin and I had a duel that lasted about 10 minutes as all
druid-druid and druid-priest duels did those days, and I felt I had made a
good enough impression by my duely ways since duels matter so much, so we
sparked some casual conversation and talked about getting into Pacifist. We
hopped into the pacifist recruitment channel, Saucy and I applied, but
Evildeeds hesitated: Nexous is an officer in there, I beat him in a duel and
pissed him off pretty bad, I don't think I'd get in. Within 2 and 1/2 weeks,
Evildeeds had rerolled Roirraw and entered Pacifist with us.
Chain LBRS/UBRS runs for points were amazing,
although I had the hardest time accumulating druid loot. We'd run 4 or more
runs in one evening. Those were good times. Once the 40-man raiding began,
the time sink was crazy, but worth it. Up until Nef, I showed 4 for 5 almost
every week, with few exceptions. After that, I flip-flopped my way through AQ
after I picked up a girlfriend and tried to split my time 50/50 with her and
raiding. Once I moved out for college, I was about 3 for 5 for raiding for
Naxx--we had more druids then, especially a certain pro named Jazz, so I
didn't feel too bad not committing like Katithra. We lost a couple not great
druids (Pyne), so I tried my best to show up as much as possible all the way
up until Sapph, who I only saw once, and then finals hit, and I never saw the
rest of Naxx.
TBC came out shortly after and my semi-casual
semi-not raid time was ok levelling and doing heroics. We started doing Kara,
and that's only the second time I remember my girlfriend being agitated with
playtime (the first being in AQ--I'd often leave around 9:30 p.m. because of
this). My attendance was shaky all the way through Gruul as my relationship
with my girlfriend had grown really shaky so I was trying to fix that--I
never saw a kill. By the time he was nerfed, I hadn't the time anymore. I was
there for Magtheridon, my last raid boss, although the university server
crashed me at 20% of our first kill.
Other people at the time were finding issues with
time commitment as well as the general cock-blockery of the game, and we had
already lost a few very memorable players for good because of our raiding
stance. To avoid losing cool players to talk to outside of raiding in favor
of annoying jerkoffs we were forced to recruit to fill raids, Hocken made the
casual rank. I told Hocken finals were hitting soon (it was about April) and
I wouldn't be able to show up for more than a couple raids for the next
couple weeks, and he told me to just take the casual rank till I felt like I
could raid solidly again. I obliged, but never turned back. I got my first
solid job (as in kept for over 3 months), I got an apartment (I had been
living in the dorms), and I cancelled my WoW account for the first time in 3
years that summer. When the next semester started, I started taking actually
interesting classes. Pacifist died without me really in it, but it was still
sad to see a titan finally fall. Winter hit, and I thought about playing my
druid semi-casually, then Xivia mentioned to me that people were playing on
gorefiend so I rolled over there, leveled to 70 within a month, been playing
pretty casually since!
Did I see this coming? No. But, I know that if
WoW hadn't filled my time sink, something else would've. I knew little about
each new part of WoW I went to, so I never expected each new aspect of it,
and so I was never really disappointed either.
2) Onyxia, of course, but not just Onyxia. It was
the first ride out of Theramore that was the first really epic moment of WoW,
it was finally getting the kill and screaming like idiots on vent, it was the
subsequent raid on Thunderbluff and the stupid motherfucker hunter who reset
it, it was the fame of the video and the guide, and being in Joink's group in
the video, and being out on the internet. It was googling Onyxia and having
the first hit be pacifistguild.org. It was phrases like, "This is Saucy.
We've got welps," "Battle res Arcus," "FUCKING KILL IT!!!!!" and "Dragon?
What dragon?" "It's just a dragon." Cause yea, it was just a dragon. It was
the people and the momentum we all gave each other that made it so memorable.
How we used that momentum to catapult ourselves into and through MC, blowing
through and then past every other guild in such a fashion that made us feel
as if even though we weren't top in the world, we were doing things our way,
and so we were the first and last to experience everything we were the way we
were. 40 minute Razorgore, that dragon ditching us right after, taking an
hour to get some fish and glitch through the door, battling it out with a GM.
Hocken: "I'm sorry, but I'm afraid we're going to have to kill this dragon."
Nexous calling him a nigger dick or something equally offensive and getting
death touched. Figuring out Chromaggus. BWL really was the most entertaining,
most fun instance we ever learned.
AQ wasn't. AQ was what it was supposed to be. It
brought the game to the next level. It was about serious business and serious
gaming. We had to commit, and it was extremely rewarding, which is what got
us through it--the reward. Not the playing. This is when we started losing
players. Everyone hated the slime, there was so much anger about shit like
Ouro, and there were "dramatic dramatastic drama bombs" that Hocken had to
for the first time in my memory make a post about attitude and raiding. Twin
Emps was an awesome time, C'thun was an epic fight, but the seed was sewn
that started splitting the guild. It took a damn long time to crack through
our players, long enough to dominate Naxx, but I really feel like that's the
point in the game where the raiding drama began. Sure, we had some issues
before, but they were fleeting, like frustration over figuring out a fight.
Hocken: "We should try this next run without buffing anyone." Not frustration
over random (and not so random) factors fucking up five hours of raiding.
Naxx was even more serious, but we had successfully changed our mindset about
raiding, so it wasn't surprising anymore to find that we could spend 2 days
on an encounter and not make any progress. Things didn't feel that rewarding
there, though--just relieving--with the exception of Four Horsemen and
Sapphiron. Four horsemen were amazing, by the way, I did enjoy that a lot.
Outside of raiding, also plenty of great
memories. Camping the canyon outside Kargath with rithriaem shadowmelded. The
assembled STV tournament for 1000 gold held by Immo and Ov, which I'm
convinced inspired many others to do the same and probably influenced the
decision to start a pvp concept later in WoW. Also, watching mikey and rith
rape Immo and Ov after they were so damn confident they were going to win.
Horde friends like Relg and Dyno. WSG premades with Paci vs. Ministry lasting
an hour, then the subsequent ones being decided by duels won by Jalia. Being
the first nature mage on the server only to be subsequently blown away a
month later by Jhaz. Chaining Kazzak. Opening a Bradygames guide to a friend
and pointing proudly at a screenshot to say THAT'S US. Ice and fire
reflectors. Eillen. Davie looting the sunblade in BRS. Seeing our tanks get
their first legendaries. Griefing people like Arcus, Riddik, Li, Femaleelf,
as often as we could. Timing a raid on Undercity with Fortis' boss pull only
to have them portal out mid fight and wipe our Sylvannis attempt. DotA with
Hocken, Mikey, Danger, Jallinya and/or Brutus till 9 a.m. in the morning.
Cliff walking into Hyjal, to the top of Ironforge, and the like. After
parties in Ironforge. Pacicon. Smokey, bubbly helicopters. Listening to
Grateful Dead and Belle and Sebastian in Hocken's music channel at 10 in the
morning. Wiping Xivia's Benediction quest. 40v40 green dragon attempts. The
AQ gate opening.
These are probably just a few. Any of us could
probably document a short novel on Pacifist's Greatest Moments.
3) I think I stated this earlier, sort of, or at
least implied. School, getting life on track, a girl, and to an extent, the
game not being as good. I wonder how many people would've quit for these
similar reasons if the game was as good as it was pre-TBC or as enjoyable as
4) I was a terrible farmer. Always. It took me
forever to get an epic mount and I never got an epic flying mount on
Andromanche. Now, it's ridiculously easy to farm.
As for raiding, you know, while I used so much
time raiding, I really think I would've equally sunk it into something, and
probably something less enjoyable and satisfying instead of WoW. I met hands
down the best gaming community I have ever found on the internet in Pacifist.
I hope our members move from game to game together, because I don't think any
game will be as fun as it could be played with Pacifists. So no. No regrets.
I managed somehow to balance things with life and WoW. I could've made a lot
more money, maybe, but I've always been ok with making enough to get by till
5) A little of this, a little of that. I'm
"playing" Veldt on Gorefiend with what few Pacifist still play there, but it
looks like that is starting to wither as well. I finished farming the S1
gear, and we don't have enough people to have more than one arena team so
that looks like the end of Veldt. My girlfriend and best friend are in the
guild as well and the three of us are very slowly and casually leveling
paladins together. I played Andromanche last week for the first time in about
8 months, healing in pve blues and kara purps made of cloth in a bg. It makes
me sad to think that even with that kind of gear, it makes such a huge
difference, and you almost never see that in pug BGs on Gorefiend, so I might
pvp on Andro a bit more since Veldt seems stagnant and who knows, might
increase the net worth of the account for if I sell when we move to a new
Playing dota sparingly, but not with any
Pacifist. I usually log onto Bnet around 1 a.m., so I never see anyone on.
Playing Wii games, sometimes PS3 at a friend's house, not really interested
in Xbox anymore. For how riveting the NextGen started, it seems to already be
dying out, leaving gamers wanting. GTAIV is cool and all, but I really wonder
if they couldn't have done more with the character models considering the
system. I don't think we'll see anymore good games from the console
manufacturers--just third parties--till an upgrade. Halo Wars may be a cool
concept, but I always cringe at the idea of console RTS. Hoping Warhammer
satisfies, but I must admit I'm not nearly as stoked as I once was.
As for real life, I am plowing my way through a
film major at the U of U. Working with a documentary group in Salt Lake City
called SLC Random that covers the underground scene (not things like punk emo
shit, more like art things such as Butoh groups or Conscientia green effort
events, etc), showing a documentary at the Salt Lake Arts Festival this
summer, so that's exciting. Working as an Online Editor for a newspaper
developing the multimedia content. Living with my girlfriend and a gun-crazy
room mate. Just returned from my first trip to Europe. Pretty good point in
my life, I'd say.
6) Meh. Everyone has the same sentiments. Raiding
is not as cool, not as epic. PvP is too easy with a good group and too hard
without one. Everything is about big numbers close together and whoring
points for a month without actually doing anything. The only problem is,
somehow, no one can develop a better idea. All these other MMOs come out
bragging a new concept that WoW doesn't have, but they never develop the
concept to its full potential and they usually ignore other elements of the
game in lieu of their fancy concept. So, WoW still reigns, on and on.
7) I never thought I could so memorably enjoy a
video game or meet such unique, competent people on the internet and so many.
It's been great being a Pacifist, and I still refer to "the people I game
with" as "Pacifists," because it means that much more. I DO have screenshots,
epic ones, of the run out to Onyxia for the first time, the first time seeing
Emps, the first day of BWL, hundreds and hundreds, backed up on a dvd that's
in a car not here right now. I will have it tonight, though, so expect it. I
think I also have some good videos of things like that tournament Immo held
and Rith raping Immo. I'll load them up tonight. Not a lot of screenshots in
this thread, so they'll be neat.
Also, I read everyone's posts in this thread and
thoroughly enjoyed reminiscing. Good times.
Jalia - top
Well, well, well, if it isn't Jalia. He's just better than me at every
video game possible and I always had a lot of respect for him. He was with
Pacifist from the start to the end raiding pretty consistently.
Jalia didn't talk much on Vent but when he did he would simply interrupt
and talk over anyone who was currently speaking and say something that was
profound and correct; whenever he spoke, everybody listened.
Very lucky to have known the guy because he's the type of person that can
carry an entire guild on his back if he chose to.
1) My only experience with mmos prior to wow was
FXI, so I didnt really know what to expect. I played up to level 20 something
during the open beta and was hooked. I had no idea what end content even was
when I started. I normally spent a lot of time playing games, but not as much
as I did with WOW.
2) The first night in BWL when we feared past the
gate was probably the greatest night of raiding, killing ragnaros was second
to that for me because it was my first major boss in any game. Nax was a lot
of fun for me also I enjoyed the competition of being top dps as much if not
more than tanking, I probably should have been a rogue. The middle part of my
GM grind was the most fun I had in WOW, we had all the alliance pros on the
server doing AB and we would go undefeated all day long. Towards the end of
the grind I was to burnt out to have fun and it was just about honor and not
pvp. WOW has more good memories than I can probably list. Late night Strath
run with Roirraw. The early days of farming UBRS for dkp. Some days I would
spend the whole day outside of IF just dueling and trash talking. Camping
that town in badlands with Mikec. Tons of good times in Warsong Gulch. Having
three or four people win an entire AV was pretty entertaining too.
3) I quit and came back too many times. I would
play to much and burn myself out. I didn't expect the expansion to be such a
reset button making pretty much everything I had done worthless, that is what
ruined my taste for WOW I think. We also lost to many of our best people to
be the same level of raiding guild we were prior to TBC.
4) I regret grinding gm a little should have
stopped at about 12 or 13, but I don't really regret the raiding I enjoyed it
even when it was just farming old content. I also regret some things like
getting exalted timbermaw, no idea why I thought that was a good idea.
5) Ive tried to come back a few times, but it is
just not same. Real life wise I'm working on a masters degree.
7) Actually my favorite part of wow was spamming
my macros that asked for blessings. Also hellsting being main assist was good
Slims - top
Slims is the slimiest goon you could possibly know and for a very long
time I would immediately ban him from Vent the second I saw him. But he was
too good at evading the bans (although I bet I got him to put the power cord
for his modem within arms reach).
Honestly he grew on me a little bit and I even like the guy now a days.
1) I had no idea I would spend so much time in
WoW, whether it was ordering pizzas from Jalia or listening to MikeC go on
racist tirades there was nothing funner then playing WoW with the pacifist
guild of goons.
2) When we did da boss with da thing and he
dropped da uh perditions hahahah thats my hellsting impression did you like
3) I quit because I called a dragon a nigger. But
actually blizz made me quit by banning me and my mom wouldnt pay for my 15 a
month anymore also thanks alot MOM
4) I regret farming rep becasue I didnt pick
5) im jackin it right now
6) wow sucks right now arena is gay this thread
is gay you are gay lets have sex
7) i dont have anypictures because if you havent
figured out by now i was actually not in pacifistsorry for wasting your time
and have anice day love slims
Shaleia - top
Shaleia joined us a little late but was part of a group of real life
friends that for a while were a strong part of our raiding backbone.
I always got the impression that he was one of our more "normal people"
players that didn't dedicate their life to WoW for extended periods of time.
But he was like our only Druid for a while and eventually turned into a
1) No. I wasn't even gonna buy this game. I had
played DAoC and had decided that MMOs were stupid. I got convinced to play by
two friends, one was a priest named Ehrgeiz, the other went on to roll a mage
named Emongeno. I was torn between rolling a rogue or a druid. I wanted to
roll a rogue but I was afraid noone would want to group with me at higher
levels because that always happens with rogues. Ehrgeiz convinced me that
I got started a couple weeks late but I was
hooked from the opening cinematic. I loved War 3 and have always been lore
fag and this game pulled me in. I rolled on KT because that's where my
friends were. I started in a guild called, "The Alliance," which broke up
while I was still leveling. Ehrgeiz went on to join Pacifist but I wasn't 60
and I found some old friends from a CS clan (a#) so I joined their clan.
Things were good for the 5/10/15 person groups.
They made me an officer and we recruited a ton and did some MC. Eventually I
realized they were too casual for me. I was playing the, "Show up, be
prepared, play your balls off," version of WoW and they were playing the,
"roll in when it's convenient, don't bother with potions because they are too
expensive, and be sure you can see the TV from where you raid," version of
WoW. I wanted to join Paci but rogue recruitment was a little... tight.
My first memories of Paci were watching the Ony
kill party in IF and running a ZA trinket pug for Schwa.
I had a friend who had quit his druid while
leveling so I picked that up and started gearing it out. Emo left for Paci
and he and Danger informed me that a druid spot was open. I joined up right
after you guys had dropped Emps and it was like night and day. People came
wanting to play and knowing how to do it. I was scared to shit someone was
going to find out just how little I had played my druid. I asked this one
druid named Jhaz if there was a channel I should join. He said there was but
he didn't know what it was because he had a fight with someone in there.
What I wanted out of WoW was to play at the top
end. To see everything there was to see in the game, and to prove I could
hack it with the best players. I had gotten that a little in past guilds but
it wasn't until I got to Pacifist that I really felt I had, "made it." The
time I was in Paci I never felt I was in the company of equals. I felt I was
being allowed to play with my betters. That I managed to earn their respect
enough to not be kicked was what I was looking for.
2) -Running into Naxx with world buffs and trying
to dodge the naked Ministry priest squads. Especially when I didn't have an
-Pacicon (???2008???). The drunken run down the
strip, the minikeg chug contest.
-Rolling 80 Fortis/Ministry outside AQ40.
-This one time I healed Tmix/Soph outside LHC
while they rapped like 8 noobs.
-Racing Force to C'Thun. I had a RL friend in
Force and he sent me a tell as the weaken expired at 1% asking if we had made
any progress. Just then someone (I think Hocken) says, "C'Thun, 1%" in
general and he sent me another tell flipping out.
3) I quit at the end of Naxx to once again try to
make my old CS buddy guild into a serious raiding guild. I came back when it
clearly wasn't going to happen.
4) Not really. I have some RL friends I kinda
lost touch with because of WoW and I do regret that but I have made a huge
number of other friends through WoW that have become RL friends.
I do have a few regrets of other things. Mostly I
regret that I didn't work on getting in to Paci sooner and I regret I left
after Naxx. I regret that I never got to kill Visc, I was around for all the
wipes but missed the kill. And I regret the time I had to be cut from
learning Kael because I wasn't playing up to par.
I kind of regret liking our Loatheb kill so much
because I know it made Nexous hate WoW.
5) Gamewise I'm in Flavour Country and still
raiding. We raid 4 times a week and are 4/6 Sunwell. I like raiding less
often but it means We don't go back to BT so I'll never get glaives, which
kinda irks me a bit. I also picked up AoC and am playing that casually. Who
knows if I will decide to do that more hardcore.
RL wise I working for the U of Utah which I've
done for a while now. I'm trying to get good enough at poker that I can quit
my job. That's coming along slowly but I've got high hopes. If that fails me
I'm also just started going back to school for a 2nd degree in Computer
6) Fuck Casuals.
7) Quote: Originally Posted by Hocken
By far the worst fight in Naxx for us was
Gothik; we wiped to him over a thousand times I'm sure.
Say what you want about tbc, Gothik was the
biggest nail in the coffin. The burnout that fight started was the single
worst thing that happened to Paci. I've raided every fight in TBC other than
KJ and nothing has come close to fucking Gothik. I've been back to Naxx a few
times at 70 and I still projectile vomit every time I hear his intro.
Other than that, I'm glad to have met you all,
I'm glad to have been given the chances I was given by the guild and I miss
many of you and I love all of you like a fat kid loves cake.
Roirraw - top
Roirraw, aka backwards warrior, eventually just dropped to backwards was
known for a long time as "the guild backbone." This guy would play WoW all
day and always be 100% up for anything. He created what was then known as the
trifecta run: UBRS, then Strat, then Scholo in succession. This took like 4
hours to do but was the best farming time could buy back when MC was the only
instance available to farm.
He was also the main reason Jhaz got introduced to Pacifist. Jhaz would go
on those trifecta runs all the time and we all got to know him very well
before he joined us.
Now a days Roirraw is kicking some ass in Iraq.
1) No, I first started playing WOW in beta with a
RL friend. We both made Tauren Druids and stopped leveling around 30 or so. I
was pretty bad at the game then, didn't really have any direction, or know
how to play. Spent most of my time in the barrens getting owned by warlocks 3
day fears and DOTs. When the real game came out, I rolled a NE Druid, with
Clan HOOD on Kel'Thuzad. That was the server they picked, so I went with
them. I brought some RL friends to the server, but they were extremely
casual. I ended up carrying the Clan HOOD on my shoulders for a few months,
running all the members thru instances, farming for them and trying to get
people leveled up. One after another got to a higher level ( around 40 ) and
some drama would erupt and people would leave. Very few of them would stick
around long enough to make something out of the work. I met Andromanche in
Astrannar one day, and we started questing. Then I met Zebrin/Souldius/Zephra
and we had a pretty solid 5 man team. About the next day I rolled a Human
Paladin, Evildeeds. Seal of the Crusader was broken at the time, so I powered
thru the levels. Reached 60 in about 1-2 weeks max. Thats when I met Hocken,
broadcasting for a raid to Strathlome. We did a few runs, and the Eyes raped
the entire group time after time. No one knew what they were doing, and it
was so much fun. That's when Zebrin and Andro left for Pacifist, I went on a
trial run with my Paladin to UBRS, told if I could beat nexous in a duel I
could get in, I beat him, he denied me and I secretly rolled a Warrior to
fill a position in the Guild. With the help of Zebrin and Andro, I made it
happen in record time. Hit 60 in under a week on Roirraw, and was in MC a
week later. That's when it all started..........
2) Blightcaller raids ( 90% of the people would
die ), Plaguelands PVP, Southshore Raids ( pre bg ), Trifectas, Latenight
Farming Sessions, Killing Fireguard before it spawned more, Speed run MC's,
Twin Emps, Mothers Day Rag Kill, Waking up in the middle of the night and
thinking "the green dragons are up", logging on, calling the phone tree and
owning dragons at anytime of the morning/night, everything in BWL ( points
competitions, learning the fights, 2h tanking the death pulls, waiting for
the drakefang talisman I never got ), PVPing with the best ( UJ, Mikec,
Jalia, Jhaz, Davie, Barudin, and so many others I can't even start to name ),
DOTA games during raiding. So many memories and good times I can't recall on
right now. Pacifist was one of the things I will miss.
3) Needed a job, life change and some other
direction. Being a hardcore WOW raider and DOTA player really didn't pay the
4) No, I made some good friends, I think. I would
only regret the time spent if this community didn't stay together. The few
core people who made the guild last as long as it did, were able to put up
with eachother on a nightly basis. I see no reason why something good, like
what pacifist used to be, should dissolve.
5) Gaming is pretty much stuck to single player,
old games, and some RTS vs Comp players due to my depolyment to Bagdad, Iraq.
Sunday 8 June, 2008 is the day my gaming ends for at least 1 1/2 years.
6) Couldn't tell you, I didn't like the expansion
7) I wish I still had some of the screenshots and
videos that we took while raiding. Those times we're so much fun, and there
is little, if anything, to show for it. I hope you guys all take care and
keep the community together, it will be nice to come back and enjoy some new
games after the tour.
Hocken - top
And finally here is my wall of text that is essentially a history of the
guild from my perspective.
1) Well I played EQ for a while when it came out
(Rodcet Nife represent) but I always felt like I played a shitty class
(Druid) and didn't get the chance to do much real raiding until my last few
months of it. I rolled a Priest with the sole intention of raiding. From my
experience with EQ (keep in mind I quit a few weeks before Luclin), healers
and Enchanters were always needed, so I'd be a healer since WoW didn't seem
to have any sort of Enchanter-esque class to me. I chose a Dwarf because I
thought "Fear Ward" would summon me a totem and that would be cool; I was
thinking about Healing Wards from War3. And the fact that they had massive
I played open beta and started up on Kel'thuzad
about a week after the game came out - I was out of town during release. KT
because of Ye Olde Goon Squad. A couple of my RL friends who were goons
decided to play with them so I followed. Shortly after turning 60 all of the
powergamers in Goon Squad quit because goons are in general a bunch of
trolling idiots. I was not one of these people who left; I think I was about
level 50 when Pacifist was created by Nexous. But I was inspired and thought
that they had more potential to be the hardcore guild I was interested in. At
level 58 or so I did a "trial" with Pacifist in LBRS where Taliababa got like
3 pieces of BM and became by far the best equipped Hunter Alliance-side.
I joined Pacifist mostly due to the pestering of
Pacifist's then-leader Pink (who was a hot Asian girl). Then I did some
Scholo and Jalia told me I sucked at healing right outside of Ras's room
because I kept letting him get way low (not dead though!). I was hurt but
inspired to get better.
How I got to be leader is a story that can be
told surprisingly quickly: Slink (Pink's manslave) got a Deathstriker and
eBayed, Pink quit with him, Nexous got gleader. This guy Aegon who was an
officer caused constant bullshit drama and Nexous decided to kick him out.
This caused more drama and everyone was in "fuck this guild" mode. Nexous was
angry one night and randomly gleadered me saying, "You're the only one who
seems to want improve the guild so here ya go." Thus it began. At this point
we had maybe 10 active level 60 players and a handful of people still
Goon Squad hated Pacifist for abandoning them;
they had the impression we thought we were so much better than them. I knew
we weren't big enough to do what I really wanted to do - kill Onyxia - so I
talked to Vargtimmen (then a psuedo-leader of Goon Squad) and we organized a
very successful string of Onyxia raids that resulted in her death on the 4th
night. Remember, this is 3 months after release, nobody knew anything about
anything, our only plan on the first pull was "evens go left, odds go right."
We wiped over and over and over for probably 36 hours total learning each
phase and finally killed her. Now people were interested.
But I had my goal: steal all the talent from Goon
Squad. I knew who they were - the guys who didn't suck at Onyxia. Pacifist
was fielding maybe 40% of the Onyxia raids; Goon Squad still had the
majority. I reasoned that if I stole 10-15 good players, we'd be on our way
to being a real raiding guild. But, unfortunately, it didn't work. The filthy
goons were too loyal to their guild and I think they correctly figured that
they'd be able to do Onyxia on their own with a little patience; remember
they were a gigantic guild with like 400 accounts.
I was sort of in panic mode trying to figure out
how I was going to get 40 people together on a consistent basis when I
learned about a little guild called . In the
strangest of coincidences, NPM's guild leader was a guy named Jeter who I
happened to know as a guy named Jake from Utah. We were acquainted from when
I lived there and had tons of mutual real life friends. NPM was a group of
unusually talented WoW players; some of our best recruits came from that
guild. Eventually, after a little bit of joint raiding in UBRS, Onyxia, and
MC, I stole pretty much the entire guild. I had the players now.
From there for a very long time we didn't have to
do shit but raid. No drama, no loot issues, no recruiting, no anything but
raiding MC. It was the easiest guild to run in the world. We simply showed
up, dominated shit, and had fun. We quickly overtook all of the Horde guilds
in MC and began our string of server firsts with like Garr or maybe it was
Majordomo - one of those MC bosses. We would get 99.9% of 40man server firsts
from then until TBC (only exceptions: Lethon (Ministry), Kazzak (HC), and the
scarab boss in Naxx (HC) - only because we went to DK wing first night and
The first major drama bombs happened around
mid-BWL. What was going on is that we had our core raiders - about like 42
people literally; we had really consistently good attendance. And we had our
"Friend" (aka casual) rank - they weren't allowed to raid even though many of
them wanted to; we simply didn't have the room. But occasionally, as our core
raider pool began to fluctuate slightly, one or two "Friends" were getting
into raids on a regular basis. This caused a whole "Friends vs. Raiders"
drama battle that ended with me, mostly on Nexous's advice, kicking out most
of the Friends, kicking out semi-active or shitty raiders, and promoting any
useful Friends to raiders. In addition it was the first time we had to
recruit a very small number of people. I think it was the right decision.
Overall the guild remained on cruise control
through BWL and into AQ40. We had one or two key members quit but nothing
major to deal with. AQ40 was feeling really easy until we hit Twin Emps. That
is the boss in WoW that changed the game completely. All of a sudden small
errors were catastrophic; it was a fight that required absolute perfection.
Due to this some mild drama erupted around this time as we were forced to
shed some players that we carried and try to find some new ones that were
pro. Once we hit C'thun some more drama erupted because we couldn't kill him
(prefix - nobody could) and this was the first time that we had really been
cockblocked. But we got him down the day they fixed him and all was well
The momentum of the guild noticeably slowed when
Naxx arrived. Too many key members were getting sick of raiding. Or they
wanted to reroll new classes when their mains were in the best gear in the
game. We did alright in Naxx from an outside perspective but inside the glue
was becoming undone. We knew about painful nights of raiding from Twin
Emps/Ouro/Cthun but we were feeling pain more consistently in Naxx and it
wasn't making anyone happy. By far the worst fight in Naxx for us was Gothik;
we wiped to him over a thousand times I'm sure.
Along with more painful raiding than we were used
to, another major thing that was changing was how we approached bosses.
Starting with about Ouro the whole raiding world began to really mature and
strategies/videos became widely available. I'd say Twin Emps is the last
fight we actually figured out ourselves from start to finish. In Naxx this
was especially bad, and since our performance wasn't as good as it used to be
we were consistently behind the bleeding edge of raiding thus leaving
strategies available to use. And they were used excessively much to the
dismay of many of our key members who had spent 1.5 years learning shit
themselves and loved it.
And, of course, I take a large chunk of
responsibility for the slowdown we experienced during Naxx. I had spent a
long time leading shit and being marginally successful pawning off leader
type duties on other people. WoW was feeling too much like a job. All I
wanted to do was show up and raid but if I even tried to do that I would be
unable to resist the urge to assume my normal leadership role. As Naxx rolled
on I cared less and less. Trailmix/Jallinya killed Sapphiron for us - I
didn't lead a single raid to him.
We got through Naxx but believe me I breathed a
gigantic sigh of relief when we killed Kel'thuzad 3 or 4 weeks before TBC.
Many people, including myself, were not sure we would pull it off.
TBC came out and what a giant fucking mess that
was. Levelling to 70 wasn't bad and Karazhan wasn't bad but Gruul was a total
clusterfuck. Ministry got the server first on him and this caused the members
of Pacifist to collectively shit more of a brick than they might want to
admit. Eventually, somehow which totally escapes me, we killed pre-nerf Gruul
after about a month of trying. I think we dropped Magtheridon first which was
good for morale, but Ministry had the lead going into SSC and got most of the
firsts in there - maybe all of them but Vashj who we got, I forget.
Things were okay but far from great. Key, key,
key players quit during early TBC. Like the most important players we had:
Jalia, Nexous, Trailmix, Jhaz for a while, and more who I can't remember
right now. Server transfers were in full swing and the pool of available
talent all of a sudden became gigantic and full of shitty player static. Our
talent level dropped to new lows but we stayed afloat by finding about 1
amazing player for every 4 we recruited and scored most firsts in TK
including Kael'thas by a good couple weeks.
The Horde competition slowed down because
Ministry and Fortis - the two big Horde guilds - were falling apart slowly.
They ended up disbanding right around this time and forming Exodus which went
on to completely dominate starting with about end-Hyjal, mid-BT. It was kind
of a perfect storm for them that worked out very well. On the other hand, we
were having trouble attracting talent, keeping talent, and rapidly losing key
members to burnout.
Very, very few people ever quit Pacifist to play
with another guild. In fact, I'd say about 0% of our pre-TBC members quit to
raid with someone else. All of our quitting members stopped playing the game
entirely, went way casual, or focused entirely on PVP.
Right around this time it became apparent to
everyone that I was a shitty leader. I was showing up to maybe 60-70% of
raids and usually declaring myself on vacation while attending them. Kuraa
was running the guild more or less and he did a fine job but it's rough to do
everything for extended periods of time and he was burning out and believe me
you do not want an angry Korean leading your raids. Then Vanstrider came
along and between him and Kuraa shit was getting done. Towards the end of TK
I decided to gleader Vanstrider and this seemed to be a well received move -
I think it was the right move even now.
Hyjal went okay until Archimonde who totally
raped us for a long time. BT went okay but not great. By this point we had
maybe 5 original members actively raiding and a good 30% of our raid group
was a revolving door of shitty players and good players who quickly quit
after transferring to us as a last ditch effort to find enjoyment in WoW. I
had pretty much quit raiding, dropping to the level of "sometimes available
emergency replacement." The last BT boss I killed was Teron and I never was
at an Archimonde kill.
When we were cockblocked on Archimonde and barely
farming Teron every week for like a month a significant amount of people
dropped off over the course of a couple days. After this point we couldn't
field good progression raids. We could farm SSC/TK and the first bosses in
Hyjal/BT, but that was about it. It was sort of a mutual decision amongst all
officers that we were done. I think a subpar raiding guild could have been
salvaged but we had no leadership for it. Vanstrider was totally burnt out,
Kuraa was deported to North Korea for being a communist, I was totally done
It was over and that was that for Pacifist.
Did I expect to drop this much time into WoW when
I started? Honestly, yeah. Did I expect to lead anything? Hell no.
2) Onyxia kill #1 moment for me in WoW by far.
40v40 PVP sessions at world bosses and outside instances was always fun.
Standing outside of Four Horsemen with every possible buff in the game before
we killed them for the first time. The Sapphiron kill were we just oneshot
him without any real consumables, "Let's just give this one try and call it a
night. Oops, he's dead." Atiesh was an alright moment but I never played the
game for loot in the slightest. Although honestly I was pissed that I didn't
get the first Benediction so this just made up for that. Nothing will make up
for not being the guy who rang the AQ40 gong though; that sucked tbqh.
Fucking Lokasenna, fucking Katithra, fucking Redstar.
My favorite times in the game were anytime that
we just did shit properly. No mistakes, no idiots, no incompetence, just 100%
pro. It happened occasionally as a group but I was always happy to have
people in the raid who I could 100% rely on to do their job perfectly. And
occasionally, I could rely on all 40 people. Those were the best times in WoW
3) Totally burnt out as explained in the wall of
4) Yeah, honestly, I regret some of it. I
neglected a lot of real life shit to play WoW way too much. I didn't like
fuck up my life or anything - never failed any classes or ruined my credit
playing WoW, but I definitely spent waaaay too much time playing it. One
thing that was a blessing in disguise was that about a month before WoW came
out I almost died and spent a full year recovering from some physical shit
(aka playing WoW 80 hours a week). I'm fine now, but if that hadn't of
happened, I might have fucked up my life a little.
After reentering the real world you look back and
think about how pointless it all was really. I mean what are you going to do,
walk up to a girl and say, "I've killed Muru baby." Endgame raiders are like
0.1% of the population of WoW and nobody gives a fuck about it outside of the
game itself. Sometimes it can be so insulating that you lose important real
world perspective. This certainly doesn't happen to everyone though; we had
several good, longtime members who had their shit together in the real world
and just happened to spend all their free time playing WoW.
But there are several things I don't regret at
all like all of the cool people I met playing. Some of which became and
remain good friends.
And no I certainly don't regret getting paid to
write strategy guides for Bradygames. Like I'm so fond of saying, Kel'thuzad
bought my couch. That was a great experience.
5) Being a pretty good student and slacking off a
little too much. Off and on with WoW - playing casually on Gorefiend. Golfing
a lot. Playing way too much Rock Band/GH. Enjoying Seattle because it's the
greatest place to live.
I was never much of a gamer so I'm slipping back
into my usual routine of playing something a lot for 2 days then not playing
anything for a month.
6) WoW is pretty friendly to the casual gamer
which I like since I am one. The PVP system is decent but honestly I'm
annoyed by the rating requirements and the whole e-sport focus they seem to
have going. It only hurts the game to try to balance it for PVP and PVE at
the same time.
Honestly I can't say much about raiding. I don't
really keep up on the bosses or anything. I hear Muru is hard and there's
some adds involved? I don't even know the names of the bosses in Sunwell.
Overall though, I'm very glad to not have every single evening conquered by
an unbreakable commitment to WoW.
7) Overall the whole experience was great and now
I am totally content with MMOs. When I played EQ I wanted to be a known,
hardcore player, but I never was. My next MMO was Anarchy Online which was
too big of a mess to do anything in but still really fun (level 200 Martial
Artist represent). What I did in WoW fully satisfied everything I wanted out
of an MMO so I never will feel the need to be an MMO overachiever again. But
it might happen if the game is really fun.
And thus concludes our update. While I was impressed with the amount of
responses I got to my questions, there are still many people who should not
be forgotten. Maybe if they decide to contribute we can have a part 2.
What will the future hold for Pacifist? Nobody knows. But most of us are
still around and still play games. I'd say it's fairly likely that an
incarnation of Pacifist will happen as soon as the next good MMO comes out.
AoC? Nah. Warhammer? Maybe.
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